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Climate Change leads to an Earth like Venus
A SCARE TACTIC
Radio and podcast host astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson makes a wild claim in a new video that can be found HERE on the Business Insider website. Tyson proclaims, “Don’t worry, earth will survive climate change — we won’t!” Basically this statement is made because Tyson believes the earth will be turned into a planet much like Venus! He also claims that consensus makes something science when stating, “It’s science whether or not you believe it.”
Jim Nations is a Wyoming citizen who lives in Casper. He has involvement with STEM education, including FIRST LEGO Robotics, FIRST Tech Challenge, Skills USA Wyoming and other STEM activities. His education includes a Masters of Science in Space Studies and hours towards a Doctorate in Education. He has worked for NASA at Johnson Space Center and the Jet Propulsion Laboratory at Caltech, at WYDOT, the Department of Energy and as a private consultant.Jim clearly refutes Neil deGrasse Tyson’s idea by pointing out many scientific facts concerning the planet our Earth is supposedly transforming into.
Venus Talking Points by Jim Nations
Venus is closer to the Sun, so it should be hotter and it is. Venus receives almost twice as much solar energy as the Earth (inverse square law). It has a dense atmosphere of mostly CO2 and the surface pressure is 90 times higher than Earth (about 1300 pounds per square inch, roughly 3000 feet deep in an ocean on Earth). It is covered by bright clouds (high albedo). Its rotation and orbital parameters are different (see below), so it’s very slow rotation means the Sun-side has extended exposure to the incoming solar radiation.
Density of the Venusian atmosphere is one key issue to understand. 90 atmospheres of any gas means a very dense atmosphere around a planet. Would 90 atmospheres pressure of nitrogen (Earth’s major atmospheric constituent) trap heat as well as CO2?. No. Would a denser atmosphere on Earth trap more heat? Yes. Does the 400 parts million ratio (CO2 to total atmosphere volume) mean we’re headed towards Venus-like conditions? No.
The formation of both planets was very different and the current state of each planet is also very different.
Yes, CO2 traps heat. Gases can trap heat. What are the physics of CO2 at Venusian temp/pressure? CO2 takes on interesting characteristics as it is subjected to other than Earth-normal temp/pressure; ask anyone who is injecting CO2 for enhanced oil recovery. Plugging Venus conditions into a CO2 phase diagram is also part of the understanding.
Venus receives almost twice as much solar energy as the Earth. Mars, which is further way, receives 43% less solar flux than the Earth (inverse square law again).
Venus Earth Mars
Distance from Sun (A.U.) 0.72 1 1.52
Flux, Watts/meter squared 2643 1370 593
Albedo (reflectivity) 0.8 0.3 0.22
Observed Temperature, Kelvin 730 288 218
1 Astronomical Unit = distance between Earth and Sun
10 Things About Venus
Are we capable of turning Earth into Venus? No, and certainly not by adding incremental volumes of a trace gas – CO2 is now at 400 parts per million ratio (CO2 to total atmosphere) and has been much higher at times in the geologic past.
Is global climate warming change a political and financial scam? Yes – do the science and the financial math!
Questions to Ask
Why does Venus have so much CO2 in its atmosphere?
What events in its history cause it to have very slow retrograde rotation?
How does this very slow retrograde rotation affect its atmosphere and surface warming?
What other elements or chemical compounds, at 90 bar/atmospheres of pressure and density, would produce similar temperatures on Venus? Is CO2 the only compound that will do this? What are the physics of CO2 at Venusian temp/pressure – supercritical or ???
CO2 is now at 400 parts per million ratio (CO2 to total atmosphere volume) in Earth’s atmosphere; CO2 in the Venusian atmosphere is 970,000 parts per million of the total atmospheric gases. That’s about 2400 times more CO2. The percentage comparison is 0.04% to 97%.
It’s popular to say we might turn Earth into Venus because of the CO2 increase in Earth’s atmosphere from human activities – by what processes would this be possible? How long would that take?
What are the other gases in the Venusian atmosphere? What are the total atmospheric interactions given the pressure, temperature, circulation patterns and other variables?
Why isn’t Venus hotter? How much cooler is Mercury than Venus? Why is that?
Tyson needs to brush up on his history of science. Could it be that Non-Global Warming believers may some day be considered the mavericks of science when the hoax of global warming is understood for what it really is?
“It is our responsibility to leave the men of the future a free hand. In the impetuous youth of humanity, we can make grave errors that can stunt our growth for a long time. This we will do if we say we have the answers now; if we suppress all discussion, all criticism, saying, ‘This is it, boys, man is saved!’ and thus doom man for a long time to the chains of authority, confined to the limits of our present imagination. It has been done so many times before.”― Richard P. Feynman, scientist, teacher, raconteur, and musician
Don’t Confuse Us With the Facts
California-Based Group Promotes
Climate Change Indoctrination for Wyoming Students
Climate Parents is a national group that is involved in climate and social justice campaigns across our nation. They have recently targeted our state, claiming that “Wyoming is for coal over kids.” They have even posted this message on their Facebook page banner. They have also posted several press releases that smear the words of our State School Board Chairman and other elected leaders. They are attempting to influence decisions made by Wyoming citizens regarding the Next Generation Science Standards and their views on anthropogenic climate change. Climate Parents wants this taught as an accepted scientific fact.
Climate Parents and Citizens Engagement Lab are out of Berkeley, CA and New York, NY. They have had representatives on-site at a public meeting held in Casper prior to the SBE Meeting concerning the NGSS. The Wyoming Legislature defunded the implementation of the NGSS because of the outpouring of citizens’ voices. These voices were not just concerned about the teaching of climate, but the quality of the standards overall with weak content that was given a “C” rating by the Fordham Institute. This along with teaching anthropogenic climate change and Darwinian Evolution as settled science is the reason parents spoke up in Wyoming.
Lisa Hoyos is the co-founder of Climate Parents. Her bio on KeyWiki states, “In the mid 1990s Lisa Hoyos served on the Board of Directors Oakland based Institute for Social and Economic Studies- sponsor of Cross Roads magazine, which sought to promote dialogue and building new alliances among progressives and leftists… and to bring diverse Marxist and socialist traditions to bear while exploring new strategies and directions for the progressive political movements.”
It is quite clear what their agenda is as it is also freely stated on their website:
“Citizen Engagement Laboratory launched the CEL Climate Lab in 2011 to strengthen the U.S. climate organizing and communications landscape, particularly in terms of rapid response capacity. We believe the primary obstacle to climate action in the U.S. is a lack of cultural and political will, and we pursue three primary strategies for building that will:
You can view a copy of their Open Letter to the State Board of Education HERE!
The majority of the 14,000 signatures on their petition are from out-of-state members. However, it is concerning that signatures from Wyoming educators, scientists and individuals are included and agree that the SBE should abandon the law as they, “urge the board to put legislative politics aside and carry out your duty to adopt [NGSS]. . . ”
Local control of education is where the power of the individual is heard. This is a parental right, for their voice to be heard and for it to be taken to the powers that can make change. This is what happened when the legislature acted.
You can very clearly see their agenda by visiting their website and Facebook page. In fact they are using a scare tactic to teach our children with cartoons and encouraging parents to have their children view them. This comic was produced in partnership by Years of Living Dangerously and Symbolia Magazine and can be seen HERE:
If you haven’t already PLEASE write Wyoming legislators and the Governor to inform them of what this group is really about, and that you don’t want outside organizations to have influence over Wyoming policy. Only the voices of Wyoming citizens and parents of Wyoming children should count in this discussion, and Climate Parents as a national group has a political agenda and an utter disconnect with the realities of Wyoming’s needs, interests, and children. Further, what this group is actually advocating is that the SBE ignore the budget footnote before them and in fact, disregard the law. You may want to include pertinent links to Climate Parent websites we’ve provided in our article so legislators can see for themselves. Contact info provided below:
Governor Mead: email@example.com
The debate over Next Generation Science Standards (NGSS) has raised a lot of questions in Wyoming about environmental education. The NGSS seek to imbue students with a particular view regarding the manner in which humans should respond to climate change, sustainability, and other such issues.
Environmental science often reduces to matters of opinion about many controversial issues. The fact that the NGSS take a position on these issues seems to be inconsistent with the view of the U.S. Supreme Court that the state should not prescribe what is “orthodox in politics, religion, nationalism or other matters of opinion.” (West Virginia Board of Education v. Barnette)
Several core ideas in NGSS, including this one, deal with the controversial issue of climate change: “Human activities, such as the release of greenhouse gases from burning fossil fuels, are major factors in the current rise in Earth’s mean surface temperature (‘global warming’).”
While there is evidence that global temperatures may be slowly rising, the causes and future effects of “global warming” are still being debated. In particular, students should be aware that there is widespread debate among climate scientists over (a) the extent to which greenhouse gases (GHG) contribute to changes in global temperature, (b) the degree of climate sensitivity to atmospheric carbon dioxide, (c) whether the consequences of GHG warming will be net beneficial or net harmful, and (d) whether the benefits of any attempts to reduce GHG emissions would be worth the costs. The curriculum needs to be balanced and objective on this topic.
The general idea of protecting the environment and conserving natural resources is not controversial. However, environmental science deals with “politics, religion and other matters of opinion.” It is questionable whether schools should even address unsettled environmental issues with impressionable young minds. If environmental science issues are discussed, then the state assumes an enormous burden of presenting the issues objectively so that they will have a neutral effect. It seems clear that NGSS coverage of environmental issues like climate change lacks the necessary objectivity.